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Subject: olympic recognition Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:19:09 GMT From: C.J.Paterson@uk.ac.bham.cs To: Trampoline List Server <trampoline@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de> Does anyone have any idea as to when trampolining will be an offical olympic sport, and if not in the near future why? Thanks Christian (Head Trampoline Coach, Gymnastics & Trampoline Club, Birmingham University.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Email: C.J.Paterson@cs.bham.ac.uk | Cognition & Affect Project WWW: http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~cjp | Cognitive Science Department Tel: +0121 414 4766 | Birmingham University Fax: +0121 414 4281 | England ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: olympic recognition Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 16:10:59 +0100 From: ard@cheeta.inesc.pt (Alfredo Domingues) To: Trampoline List Server <trampoline@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de> C.J.Paterson@uk.ac.bham.cs [ C.J.Paterson@uk.ac.bham.cs] wrote: >Does anyone have any idea as to when trampolining will be an offical olympic >sport, and if not in the near future why? > Hi jumpers Althought we can't see trampolins in the Olympics, I suppose trampolins are recognised by the International Olympic Cometee (sp?), just like Acro sports too, as an Olympic Sport. I heard that if the two Federations ( IFSA & FIT ) fuse in one Federation, maybe then, we will have Trampolins and Acro Sports in the Olympics . Does anybody heard something like that? Bye now ps: sorry about my English. :-) >Thanks >Christian >(Head Trampoline Coach, Gymnastics & Trampoline Club, Birmingham University.) > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Email: C.J.Paterson@cs.bham.ac.uk | Cognition & Affect Project >WWW: http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~cjp | Cognitive Science Department >Tel: +0121 414 4766 | Birmingham University >Fax: +0121 414 4281 | England >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --GoodFredo-- ###################################################################### # Alfredo Manuel Rodrigues Domingues || \ / Indonesians are # # INESC - Av. Duque D'avila 23B (LISBON) || @ KILLING innocent # # Email:ard@inesc.pt (PORTUGAL) || /0\ people in # #Tel. 351-1-3100111 Fax. 351-1-3100009 || ***EAST TIMOR*** # #========================================= # # Am I stand on my hands or this planet is upside down ???? # ######################################################################
Subject: RE: olympic recognition Date: 16 Nov 95 08:02:47 EST From: "W.J.Perkins" <74123.2341@compuserve.com> To: Trampoline List Server <trampoline@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de> Christian, you will probably get many replies on this one. This is quite a controversial subject as it will affect the entire structure of our sport as we know it as well as the existance (or non existance) of the FIT. It will probably come down to the Congress in B.C. Canada at next Worlds. At that time a decision will be made to support the movement to amalgamate the FIT with the FIG. In return we would have a very good shot at a spot for trampoline at the 2000 Olympics. The result would probably be the FIT would becom a technical committee of FIG. Also the DMT and Tumbling events would take some time to get recognized. Regards, Bill Perkins Canada
Subject: Re: Copy of: Copy of: olympic recognition Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 15:59:06 GMT From: C.J.Paterson@uk.ac.bham.cs To: Trampoline List Server <trampoline@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de> I can't believe that trampolining is such a minority sport that it would (or is that should?) effectively dissolve it's international governing body to become an official Olympic sport. Just as sping-board diving isn't part of the swimming international body (or is it?), and they have official IOC status. Do you think that being part of the FIG will help the sport gain popularity or be it's downfall? Hmmmm... Christian (Head Trampoline Coach, Gymnastics & Trampoline Club, Birmingham University.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Email: C.J.Paterson@cs.bham.ac.uk | Cognition & Affect Project WWW: http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~cjp | Cognitive Science Department Tel: +0121 414 4766 | Birmingham University Fax: +0121 414 4281 | England ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: trampoline in the olympics Date: Fri, 17 Nov 95 13:34:00 GMT From: "Gehrke, Ralf" <gehrke@frankfurt.agw.bt.co.uk> To: Trampoline List Server <trampoline@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de> Hi folks, lots of rumours are going on, I want to clear some of them with the following infos I've got: Today, trampoline is recognized as an olympic sport but not in the olympic games. There is a big opportunity coming up right now to change this in order to become part of the olympic games. How? The FIT Congress last year in Porto decided to start talks with the International Gymnastic Federation (FIG) in order to figure out ways of working together up to the merger of both federation. These talks happened at several occasions during this year. The FIG has 24 places left from their olympic contingent because of restructuring the male gymnastic team programm. During these talks FIT/FIG, FIG offered these places to the FIT for their disciplines. The reason is obvious: If FIG does not use these places, they go back to the IOC, where they will be distributed to another federation. Assumption: The FIT joins FIG. Problems: 24 places: Even if FIG offers these to trampolining it doesn't mean, that trampolining will get them. IOC, OC (organizing committee) of the olympic games (we are talking about Sydney 2000) have to give their ok. -> talks with Samaransch and OC president took place, looks good, but no decision yet. FIT/FIG merger: negogiations started. FIT-President Ron Froehlich does not want "to sell out the FIT." FIG structure needs to be changed. FIT Congress has to decide its dis-solution. This decision has to be taken at the next Congress (Vancouver 1996). Problem: many of the FIT member federations, who are nationally independent of the gymnastic federation (e.g. USA, France, Danmark, UK etc.) fear that they have to join the national gymnastic federation and give up their independence. THIS IS NOT TRUE!!! There can be the same situation as there is in rhythmic gymnastics (eastern europe countries are all independet from their national gymnastic federations). The decision of the dis-solution of the FIT has to be taken by a 3/4 or 2/3 majority I think. Lots of work to do to get this majority... FIG Congress (will take place during the Olympics next year in Atlanta) has to decide wether they want to accept FIT disciplines (trampoline, double minitramp and tumbling) or not. Or maybe to accept Aerobics as a new discipline and give the olympic places to them. So: Next year, 1996, in the late summer time, when both Congresses took place, we know, wether the big opportunity was taken or not. If not, the Olympic Games for trampolining won't be realized within the next 267 years (something like that, my personal opinion). Regarding that, it is NOT true, that IFSA and FIT will merge. It is NOT true, that trampolining will be definetely in the Olympics 2004 (not yet). They try to make it for Sydney, if it does not work (to less time left), then it will be for 2004. You may say, that 24 places are not much, it is not worth it to put efforts in it. But it is the first step. To put one feet in. If we are in, then we can increase and improve easier. It is hard to do that, if you're out. Brgds, Ralf
Subject: FIT decides to dissolve Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 10:32:11 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ralph Busse <busse@darmstadt.gmd.de> To: Trampoline List Server <trampoline@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de> Hello together. According to a dpa message, the FIT has decided to dissolve in 1998 and to join the FIG. The following article appeared in a local German Newspaper: Verband löst sich auf --------------------- (dpa) Der Internationale Trampolinverband hat bei der WM dieser Tage in Vancouver (Kanada) die Auflösung für 1998 beschlossen. Hintergrund des Schrittes ist, daß für Trampolin nur dann eine realistische Chance auf Aufnahme ins olympische Programm besteht, wenn sich der Verband dem Internationalen Turnverband (FIG) anschließt. Quelle: Darmstädter Echo, 28.8.96 Regards, Ralph
Subject: Correction Date: Sep 1996 From: Ralph Busse <busse@darmstadt.gmd.de> To: No recipient The above press information is incorrect. The Congress in Vancouver did not yet decide to dissolve the FIT. The decision is planned for the 1998 Congress in Sydney after successful end of the negotiations with the FIG. Source: Ralf Gehrke, ti 3/96, p.10
Subject: Olympia Date: Mon, 17 Feb 97 10:11:00 GMT From: "Gehrke, Ralf" <gehrke@frankfurt.agw.bt.co.uk> To: Trampoline List Server <trampoline@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de> The Executive Committee of the FIG (International Gymnastic Federation) decided in Rom last week to give the 24 free olympic places to trampoline. After the IOC already decided to provide to additional sets of Olympic Medals you can say, that trampoline is olympic and will take part at the Olympic Games (trampoline individual men and women 12 places each) if the FIT (International Trampoline Federation) decides to dissolve and integrate into the FIG (1998 at the Congress in Sydney). We've made it! Ralf
Subject: Correction Date: Mar 1997 From: Ralph Busse <busse@darmstadt.gmd.de> To: No recipient According to Ralf Gehrke, the IOC Executive Committee decided at the last meeting to reduce the contingent for the Sydney Olympic Games. As a consequence, the promised 24 places for trampolining have been withdrawn. The IOC did not release an official statement until now. Source: personal communication with Ralf Gehrke <gehrke@frankfurt.agw.bt.co.uk> and report in ti 1/97.
Subject: Update on Trampoline Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 20:56:11 +0200 From: Karl, Matt & Brad <fauves@citicomp.com.au> To: Ralph Busse <busse@darmstadt.gmd.de> FIG has decided quite clearly (printed in the FIG Flash) that "trampolining will not be included in the 2000 Olympics".
Subject: !!! Trampoline to be in Sydney 2000 !!! Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 23:04:37 +0200 From: kubicka@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de (Martin Kubicka) To: Trampoline List Server <trampoline@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de> Hello everybody, today the FIT TC President (Horst Kunze) send me the following message. It was a fax from the Secretary General of the FIT (Andre F. Gueisbuhler) to the FIT Presidential Committee. Horst Kunze asked me to send this information to the trampoline mailing list and homepage: --------------------------------- "... 1st of September 1997 Trampoline to be in the programme of the 2000 Olympics in Sydney Dear Trampoliners, You may open your bottle of Champagne. Today the IOC Execcutive Board has approved FIG´s and SOCOG´s request to include Trampoline in the 2000 Olympic Games. Further details to follow in the Bulletin. Kind regards, International Trampoline Federation Andre F. Gueisbuhler Secretary General ..." ------------------------------- My comment: This of course is only going to happen if the FIT Congress at Worlds in Sydney 1998 will decide with a 3/4 majority of valid votes to dissove the FIT. Hopefully this will happen next year... Bye, enjoy the party... Martin